What is true inclusion? We all have a general understanding of what it means to us, subjectively — but does treating people how we want to be treated actually equate to being inclusive? The answer may surprise you.

Take a listen as our co-hosts Roberto Aburto and Sarah Willis talk to Michael Bach, founder of the Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion, about how law firms and other organizations can objectively work on creating a more inclusive work culture.

Episode tip

“In a law firm, you define success by making partner. Well, not everybody actually wants to make partner… That's hard for some people to believe, but […] there needs to be a reconsideration of what success looks like.” — Michael Bach, founder and CEO, Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion.