This episode consists of Jamil Jaffer and I interviewing Glenn Gerstell, the General Counsel of the National Security Agency. Glenn explains what it was like on the inside of the effort to reauthorize section 702 of FISA. Jamil and I ask him whether the FISA court has the authority to deal with material omissions in FISA applications, and he actually answers. Glenn also touches on how it feels to discover that data subject to a judicial retention order has been inadvertently deleted, his secret exercise regime, his future plans, and how the United States should respond to the cybersecurity crisis.

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