What’s the difference between serving in Congress and spying in the back alleys of a Middle Eastern bazaar? Why not ask the one Congressman who’s done both – Rep. Will Hurd (R-TX). He also has cybersecurity chops from his career in industry, so he makes the perfect guest for episode 124a of the podcast. Just running through his week takes us from the difficulty of setting red lines in cyberspace to what we know about foreign penetration of the Clinton email server. But we manage as well to cover the declining fortunes of the Massie-Lofgren amendment and the reasons (and possible cures) for the disaster that is federal IT procurement.