Episode 166 is the interview that goes with episode 165’s news roundup, released separately to ensure the timeliness of the news.

In episode 166, we interview Kevin Mandia, the CEO and Board Director of FireEye, an intelligence-led security company. FireEye recently outed a new cyberespionage actor associated with the Vietnamese government. Kevin tells us how FireEye does attribution and just how good the Vietnamese are (short answer: surprisingly good but apparently small in scale). Along the way, we also cover questions such as whether China has its own set of forensic cybersecurity firms, how confident we should be about the attribution of WannaCry to North Korea, and whether PLA Unit 61398 should treat its designation as APT1 as a prestige designation, sort of like having “bob@microsoft” as your email address.

click here to listen