For Episode 4 of the Sanction Law Podcast we are joined by the one and only Richard Nephew, who before taking over as the head Columbia University’s Program on Economic Statecraft, Sanctions and Energy Markets, was the Deputy Principal Coordinator for Sanctions Policy at the State Department.

We discussed what makes a good sanctions program, how we did with Iran, and how sanctions can be improved going forward with respect to deployment, implementation, enforcement, and strategic communication. For those of you thinking deep thoughts about the role and risks of sanctions for U.S. policy, as well as those who want a better understanding of how policymakers view sanctions, this episode is for you.

This is also the first international edition of the Sanction Law podcast, as Erich joined us from his hotel room in Dubai.

NOTE: We apologize in advance for the slight audio clipping, the internet in Dubai could use some work.

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